Theological debate between two non-Christians
Posted: September 10th, 2010 | Author: Christina | Filed under: Philosophy | No Comments »Theological debate between two non-Christians
It is wonderful that we can find meaning in something that does or does not exist whereas one might ask, is it wonderful that people find meaning in Christianity?
I don’t care that it doesn’t matter whether we exist or not.
If he doesn’t think my thoughts are valuable then how can he be a good person for me to be with for the rest of my life?
If I told him even for a second that I didn’t think of music as valuable then I don’t know what he would do.
But I, even for a short period of time, compared his logic to the logic a Christian theologian would use then he clamored to me, “I am not going to hearyou again compare my logic to that of a Christian”.
When I told him I did not like this, he stated that he did not like it when I claimed his logic was similar to a Christian and the he did not like it that I didn’t let him finish what he was saying sometimes, and when I said sorry please say whatever you want he stated that he didn’t know if he really wanted to.
Previously he ridiculously said that he thought it was a waste of time to question existence instead of acting in the ‘actual’ world, when we don’t even know if there is a physical world. I say it doesn’t matter whether there is or is not but it is valuable to contemplate it. And I never said it didn’t exist, I just said that we cannot prove it necessary and that I thought it valuable to think about it and that his logic was like a Christian’s because of the following reasons:
He stated that he didn’t care whether or not this world was real, that he valued the feeling that he got from it and liked it enough for it to not matter whether or not it was real.
A true Christian does not even care to think about whether his beliefs are grounded on facts or not, what with the institution of faith, he is so happy and values the feelings he gets from it so much as to not care whether it is real or not. Someone could say to him ‘hey this is not necessarily real’ and he would say to them, ‘it is real to me and I value it enough and like it enough for it to not matter whether it is real or not’.
This is exactly what X has claimed. A. he believes more that it is real than he believes that it is not necessarily real. B. he doesn’t care if it is real or not. C. he doesn’t want to think about whether or not it is real.
He rather just go on in life like it is real and sees no value in contemplating it because he believes it does not matter if it is real or not.
I believe it does not matter whether it is real or not but I believe there is value in contemplating whether it is real or not. I believe this for the following reasons:
Due to part of my solution to nihilism, I believe this feeling, whether I or it exists or not, because I feel it, it matters, this ‘life’ matters because I feel it. So, life matters but not because it exists. It is valuable to contemplate whether it exists or not because it makes me see life differently than if I were to not contemplate whether ‘this’ exists or not and I believe that different way to be more enlightened than a life without this contemplation. I look at things differently and I think the way that I do this makes my life have more value to me than if I looked at it in a blind acceptance not worth thinking about way therefore I am defending the value of at least thinking about it.
But the way he talked to me was sure something. I was comparing arguments of theology to his thinking and that upset him to the point where he was rude to me. He got all riled up and talked to me out of anger. It should be obvious that I do not like people doing things out of anger. I would hope that he and I could have a civilized conversation whilst disagreeing with each other without getting angry and not being rational. He even defended his speech by saying that he didn’t appreciate me comparing his thoughts to that of a pure Christian. Those were my thoughts and I do not like to think that I could not share my thoughts with him.
It seems life exists just to live; rather, my perception of life is that it exists just to live.
You may seek any shade you wish to seek but night shall surely fall.
I’m on the illusion you are on the persistence of it; both are valuable in the living of it.
You disagree on so many different things and eventually you are out.
So he is sorry; he says he was in a bad mood.
:S
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